Friday, October 27, 2006

Ten Reasons to Vote for Ben Cardin, at least according to his supporters, Part 2

2."Cardin Voted Against the War in Iraq"

This is supposed to impress? For more than a decade we putzed around with Saddam Hussein, begging and pleading like ineffectual parents for him to please, please, please hold up his end of the peace agreement that ended the first Gulf War. Failing to go into Iraq despite more than a decade of broken agreement, as well as all the other "turn the other cheek" measures that our government took in response to Islamist attacks, served only embolden Islamic terrorists.

Some people (Saddam Hussein) are just plain evil. Treating them like misunderstood children only endangers our country. For a reminder, see my post "The Democratic Plan for North Korea" in the sidebar.

3."Cardin is a lifelong Marylander."

Is this a joke? Don't get me wrong, I don't want some carpetbagger (Hillary Clinton) elected to represent our state, as has happened in other states (New York, they deserve what they get); but really, that's not a reason to elect him as a senator. If that was a criterion, most of the inmates at ECI would qualify.

4."Cardin is a Mensch"

I don't know him personally, so maybe he is a "mensch". But so what? I know lots of people who are nice, but I wouldn't elect them for anything more important than dogcatcher. And besides, he's only a mensch to you if you're not an innocent baby who can't protect yourself. If that kid in the picture knew what Cardin would have allowed his mother to do to him, he wouldn't be laughing, he'd be screaming his head off in abject terror.

5."Cardin is an expert on Social Security. ,....Cardin has vigorously fought Republican attempts to privatize Social Security. "

Yeah. He thinks he knows better what ought to be done with your money than you do. He believes that you can't be trusted, so you should turn your dollars over to Washington DC, and let them handle it. 'We're from the government, and we're here to help.'

Naturally, this "social security expert" has failed to notice that if there we still had the 48 million people in the US that we've killed (aborted) since 1973 there would be no problem with Social Security, because we would have that many more people working and paying into it. But don't worry, Cardin has a plan. Each of us who survived our mother's pregnancy will have to pay more and more, and wait longer and longer to get it - if ever.

6."Cardin will help you spend less time in traffic"

Really? Can't tell it by this video of the Cardin vs Steele debate. Traffic and metro isn't a make-or-break issue for me, but it doesn't appear that Cardin has anything over Steele on this issue.

7."Cardin is a strong advocate for stem cell research"

Cardin believes that the government should be subsidizing embryonic stem cell research. He doesn't care that it hasn't shown any good results. He doesn't care that adult stem cells have shown a lot of promise, and that money going to the unpromising embryonic stem cell research diverts funds from research that actually COULD provide cures. He doesn't care about the fact that while the government will not fund this research, private enterprise can, and would -IF IT WAS WORTH PURSUING!

8."Cardin will help make healthcare more affordable"

Yawn. Doesn't every politician, of every political stripe, say this? And have we seen any real results? Cardin, like all politicians, wishes that healthcare was more affordable. But wishing won't make it so.

I can tell you what he will never do. He will never divert the $2.9 million Maryland taxpayer dollars that were used to fund abortions last year into real healthcare for the needy.

9."Cardin is a strong supporter of civil rights"

That's nice. It really is. This might make him a nice man, but it does not in any way differentiate him from a crowd of other people who would like to get elected. I mean, really, you gotta come up with something better than that. After all, have you ever heard a politician say that they are against civil rights?

10."Cardin is passionate about ethics"

I almost spit my coffee out when I read this one. Ethics? A man who is for the right to LITERALLY have a baby stabbed in the back of the neck with scissors so that his/her brains can be sucked out is going to run on ETHICS! You gotta be kidding me.

In summary, according to the Ben Cardin's supporters we should vote for him because:

he's a really nice baby-killing mensch who was too gutless to go to war against an evil dictator, but expects to be trusted with your money, is willing to talk the usual platitudes about healthcare and civil rights, got smacked-down by Michael Steele on the traffic issue in the metro area, and still has the gall to talk ethics despite being willing to kill babies in the name of convenience and pseudo-science. Oh yeah, and he's a lifelong Marylander.

13 Comments:

Blogger Historical Wit said...

baby killin and psuedo science heh? Yeah I bet many things in your world are just black and white...

4:43 PM  
Blogger Aurora Dies Incommodum said...

There's nothing wrong with black and white, if something is in fact black or white. In the case of baby killing, it is incredibly black and white. A dead baby is a dead baby. Not a little bit dead, not dead with shades of gray, not dead in a nuanced way. Just plain dead.

5:49 PM  
Blogger swampcritter2 said...

I think I'll stick with black and white on this one. Gray has only gotten this country in the sorry shape it is in already.People that would blur distinctions only seek to serve their own ends and innocents are the first to suffer.

8:39 PM  
Blogger prayandpay said...

Nite lites quit brething in the hopper.
Grate name there Mother Superior!

10:41 PM  
Blogger prayandpay said...

Christianity is the highest form of Bigotry in the world today. Only difference between Catholics and Mulsims is the AK47

10:43 PM  
Blogger Historical Wit said...

All things come to death. But since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, those dead souls will be reincarnated into another of gods creatures...

8:51 AM  
Blogger Historical Wit said...

ADI says "In the case of baby killing, it is incredibly black and white."

So what about when they get to this world? How come you holy rollers don't want to care for the kids?

12:16 PM  
Blogger Aurora Dies Incommodum said...

HW said "So what about when they get to this world? How come you holy rollers don't want to care for the kids?"

Two very important points:

1.Even if NO ONE cared for a baby, alive is STILL better than dead. When you are alive you can always work to improve your circumstances. You at least have a chance. When someone decides to kill you, that's it. You're dead. No chance.

2.You are making an assertion that "holy rollers" (by which I suppose you mean all people who are religious, or perhaps just those who think that baby-killing is a bad thing) don't care about babies, and won't take care of them.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The vast majority of social aid (welfare) agencies in the world are religious. Crisis pregnancy centers (the vast majority of which are run by Christians) work to help the pregnant mother either put her baby up for adoption or care for it herself (childbirth classes, breastfeeding help, help find social services such as food stamps, help finding work, help continuing in school, free baby clothes and toys, car seats, cribs, etc.).

It is just outright BULL to say that the "holy rollers" don't care about the babies that are born in this world.

If you don't believe it, you should just drop by your local crisis pregnancy center (in Salisbury it's located across the street from the old Skateland building) and ask them what services they offer. Then ask any 4 of the local Christian churches what they do to help those in need. Then ask yourself how you can help them.

10:08 PM  
Blogger Historical Wit said...

ADI says "Even if NO ONE cared for a baby, alive is STILL better than dead."

Tupac says "You should have shot me when I was born, now I'm trapped in the motherf*c*in storm."

Sorry but somefolks prefer death to a life of bleak poverty. Contrary to what you think. And if you get to this counrty via birth and you live on the wrong side of the tracks, your life will suck like rotten eggs.

Okay you care for babies, but I am talking about the 12 and 13 year old parentless children on the streets right now. 14 year olds with 2 kids. If I remember correctly over 10 million people have slipped into poverty since W came to be. 10 million. most kids of broke ass people, white, black or brown. They are watching their kid grow up hungry and poor while the kid up the block gets a big new toy every month, or atrip to the dentist to fix their teeth. You got a plan for the babies, but I dont see anything where you want to help pooor teenagers. What have you done for them lately? I would love to hear.

And incase your wondering, I am an ex social worker, so I ahve seen it all. I used to work with kids at risk and can say from first hand experince when these kids reach out, people like you PREACH to them why they suck and you wonder why they dont listen.

Caring only for the babies and not the welfare of the person is bull.

Lets say we give up on abortion and you win out the arguement and it become illegal and we go back to coat hangers in the alleys. I bet you money that you want to get rid of birth control too. I say we give you abortion if you give up on birth control. No restrictions on any girl who wnats to attain birthcontrol. I can see your temples flaring. SOrry but you can't have it both ways.

and i consider you a holy roller even though technically your not becasue your catholic. Why, cause your so embedded in the dogma of your own beliefs, you cant comprimise. No flexibilty to the detriment of many 12 and 13 year old girls. So keep the babies safe. Keep a strangle hold on birth control, keep producing a larger lower class. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Oh and for the crisis pregnancy center? Yeah, my second week on the job, I had to take a 14 year old girl to the crisis center on waverly to get a pregnancy test done to find out if her brother got her pregnant. Mom and Dad were staunch Catholics and didn't believe her that her brother would do that. Yep, because abortion was out of the question, she beared her brothers child at the ripe old age of 15. They finally got the proof when a blood test was done. Would have been nice if they were flexible in their thinking in those first 6 weeks. How about I refer you to them to explain that to the kid when hes old enough to understand? Let me know.

9:43 AM  
Blogger Aurora Dies Incommodum said...

Tupac? Seriously, you are going to use TUPAC to quote a philosophy of life?

HW: "Sorry but somefolks prefer death to a life of bleak poverty. Contrary to what you think."

What's your point? The baby isn't being given a preference, or a choice, so it's a non-arguement.

Also, I reject the assertion. Why? Because if those folks really DID prefer death, they would kill themselves. But they don't, so they obviously prefer life to death, even if only marginally.

HW:"And if you get to this counrty via birth and you live on the wrong side of the tracks, your life will suck like rotten eggs."

Excuse me, but you are again making a fallacious arguement. First, you are arguing that growing up on the wrong side of the tracks makes your life "suck". I know for a fact that isn't necessarily the case, because I DID grow up on the "wrong side of the tracks". I grew up with a single (essentially non-religious) mother, with multiple men in her life, none of which worked or were useful in any way. Many were addicted to various substances and a fair number were women-beaters. I have been hungry and wondered where my next meal would come from, if it was going to come at all. I could tell you more, but since you were a social worker, I'm sure that you can guess the rest.

AND I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT THAT WHILE MY LIFE, AND THAT OF MY SIBLINGS AND FRIENDS DID OCCASIONALLY SUCK HARD, WE NEVER WANTED TO BE KILLED!!!!

That is just a "sucky" solution to a hard life - die. Geez. Great problem solving skills.

HW:"You got a plan for the babies, but I dont see anything where you want to help pooor teenagers."

You are assuming that the reality of poor teenagers is due to lack of abortion? Because what, they didn't get an abortio and now they are poor? Or because they weren't aborted and now they are poor? Either way, it's a fallacious arguement. They aren't poor because of abortion, and making abortion 100% free and legal is not going to reduce the poor in any way.

It's like saying "my refridgerator is broken, so I'll burn down my house".

HW:"And incase your wondering, I am an ex social worker, so I ahve seen it all. I used to work with kids at risk and can say from first hand experince when these kids reach out, people like you PREACH to them why they suck and you wonder why they dont listen.

Caring only for the babies and not the welfare of the person is bull."

First off, I WAS one of "those kids", so I know what works and what doesn't. "Those kids" know how to say exactly the right thing to get what they want from you, and then go back to doing what they had always done. "Those kids" know that social workers and the rest don't even have the time of day.

Second off, I have been "preached to" in many different ways over the years, from a number of different denominations, and from those of no religion at all. I can't say that I always listened, but at least I respected that they were saying something real. They were speaking, even if I couldn't always hear it, to my dignity as a person, not just my "economic status".

Third, you have asserted that because we care about babies means that we don't care about the "welfare of the person". That is "BULL", as you would say.

Whether it's to stop a baby being murdered, stop a mother from having to suffer the HELL of an abortion (mothers suffer, even if you don't want to believe it), or both. We care about these people's welfare.

The pro-life movement offers just about anything you can imagine: adoption services, parenting/childbirth classes, teen mothers support groups, housing and education helps, maternity homes, even post-abortion counseling.

What we don't offer is a pair of scissors to the brain.

You haven't given one, not even one, cogent arguement as to why abortion would be a help to the teenagers you are so worried about. If a teenager is poor, having an abortion isn't going to make her unpoor. And she can always give up the baby to adoption, to a family that can take care of it. So your concern can't be for the baby, or the mother. Because in an abortion they both suffer (death for the baby, physical, mental, and emotional after effects for the mother).

HW:"No restrictions on any girl who wnats to attain birthcontrol. I can see your temples flaring. SOrry but you can't have it both ways."

Actually, both history and the research shows that I can. As teenagers have gotten more access to birth control, they have had more sex, and more unplanned pregnancies. Why? First, because the access itself is a tacit acceptance of illicit sexual behaviour. You say it's okay, and the go off and do it. Second, because teenagers use birth control like the make their beds. Half the time, and half assedly. Even girls who have full access, whose mothers have taken them to get it, don't use it regularly. They don't use the condom that is sitting in their purse. They forget to take their pill. They place the diaphram in the wrong way. They show up for their depo shot two weeks late. The only way to make "birth control" work for teenagers is to pass a law with the government enforcement on a daily basis (futurist dsytopia, anyone?). Indirectly, birth control is largely responsible for the problem.

Even the Supreme Court acknowledged that we must have abortion because couples PLAN on abortion as a back-up to their birth control.


HW:"Yep, because abortion was out of the question, she beared her brothers child at the ripe old age of 15."

Again, a fallacious arguement in favor of abortion. You are suggesting that because this child was the product of incest that it deserved to die? Even the brother who committed the terrible act wouldn't get the death penalty (and I'm willing to bet that you would be against it), so why should the innocent baby? Or are you suggesting that the birth was too traumatic for the mother, and therefore the baby should just suck it up and die?

Your example is just seething with thoughts of death! You seem to say "if only we had killed this baby, all would be well!".

It ignores the fact that the mother will still be traumatized from what the brother did to her, regardless of whether or not she aborts. But it also ignores that she will be MORE traumatized by the abortion itself.

You also fail to take into account that she COULD have given the baby up to a closed adoption, where the child would never have to know of it's parental situation, and the mother could at least have the satisfaction of knowing that she has given this child the best life she could.

If you feel that this girl missing out on killing this baby was such a mistake, why don't you go there and put a bullet in the kid's brain right now? Just apologize to the mother for not doing more to facilitate the killing of her child, and pop the kid! After all, the only difference is geography. The kid is now out, rather than in, but so what? At least he/she will be dead and everyone can get on with the healing process, right?

12:10 AM  
Blogger Historical Wit said...

damn skippy!

4:13 PM  
Blogger caterina maria said...

I can't believe the garbage you put out, HalfWit. I'd be willing to be a paycheck that you personally have arranged for a girlfriend or two to have abortions of convenience. The thought of you as a social worker is really depressing. I wonder how many of your cases ended up committing suicide because of your "help"?

3:53 PM  
Blogger Historical Wit said...

yep cm we think its horrible your out there promoting your blather and you think its horrible we're out there promoting our blather. blah blah blah. and its impossible for my partners to have babies because i perfer the same sex. go figure. being male and gay, i really don't have a say about abortion, i like to get you and your kind all fired up for no reason. now get you butts out there and protest!

4:31 PM  

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